JoePa Passes Away

With Joe Paterno passing under such controversial circumstances, what will his legacy be?

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    Roger_Dorn said:

    FaFTexas said:

    Great Coach, one bad decision.

    His “one bad decision” lasted well over a decade though, no? I’m torn.

    I just don’t think that the one mistake he made is something that should represent his entire life and all that he did for Penn State.

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    Although a great mentor to many people throughout his legacy at PSU, the nature of what he failed to bring to light will have a lasting impact on what he is remembered for. It will taint his career.

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    The very fact that his legacy is in question with discussions like this proves that his legacy will always be marred. It’ll always be “He was a great football coach, but…” Especially since it came about at the end of his career and his life. He never had the chance to set things right. Yes, it was one mistake, but one that is directly related to what he was so revered for in the first place. It’s impossible to dismiss. I hope others learn from this type of systemically influenced non-action that results in so much corruption. RIP Joe Pa.

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    FaFTexas said:

    Roger_Dorn said:

    FaFTexas said:

    Great Coach, one bad decision.

    His “one bad decision” lasted well over a decade though, no? I’m torn.

    I just don’t think that the one mistake he made is something that should represent his entire life and all that he did for Penn State.

    It was not just a mistake. He made a concious decision to allow kids to keep being raped. It doesn’t matter what else he did.

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    For one, it is no doubt that the media took a few years off his life. Secondly, I feel that people won’t forget soon, but 10 or 20 years down the road JoePa will be considered one of the best of all time, people will eventually forget and just see his numbers.

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    UlyssesEveFratMcgill said:

    The very fact that his legacy is in question with discussions like this proves that his legacy will always be marred. It’ll always be “He was a great football coach, but…” Especially since it came about at the end of his career and his life. He never had the chance to set things right. Yes, it was one mistake, but one that is directly related to what he was so revered for in the first place. It’s impossible to dismiss. I hope others learn from this type of systemically influenced non-action that results in so much corruption. RIP Joe Pa.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. I live in Pennsylvania so all I see are Joe Pa statuses. Yes, he won a lot of games, yes, he gave a lot of money, but he also allowed at-risk boy to be viciously attacked. Good for him for telling his boss but when nothing was done, he was still obligated to protect these children. What’s really a shame is that he is taking all the heat and no one even talks about the others involved.

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    For such a great coach of defense, he didn’t defend those little kids from shit. Gotta do more than tell your boss if kids are getting raped, regardless of how good of a coach you might be.

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    I do feel like time heals all wounds though. I mean, Michael Jackson got shit throughout the later years of his life for all the child rape allegations. Then, within a month of his passing, he was transformed back into the god he was in his prime. Nobody discusses Michael’s personal life anymore. It seems often when those with “mixed records” die, the good tends to overshadow the negative.

    I’m neither condemning nor condoning Joe Pa’s actions, but I’m pretty sure that’s how it will play out. Either way, RIP to a legendary coach.

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    I don’t understand what kind of pedestal his detractors think they are on. Yes, he may have had some knowledge about what was going on. Yes, he should have done more. But he has become a scape goat for our own crimes of the same sort. You can not tell me with a straight face that you have never been privy to underage drinking; underage drinking that could have led to the sexual assault of a teen. You can argue that you never witnessed any sort of deviant behavior, and if you had, you would have told your risk man chair or president, right? Looks like you’re in the same exact boat as JoePa. Have you ever let your friend drive home after having a few drinks even though he didn’t seem really drunk? 10,000+ people die of drunk driving a year, and it’s now partially your fault for letting someone potentially add to those statistics. So let him who has not sinned cast the first stone.

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    ice cold frat said:

    I don’t understand what kind of pedestal his detractors think they are on. Yes, he may have had some knowledge about what was going on. Yes, he should have done more. But he has become a scape goat for our own crimes of the same sort. You can not tell me with a straight face that you have never been privy to underage drinking; underage drinking that could have led to the sexual assault of a teen. You can argue that you never witnessed any sort of deviant behavior, and if you had, you would have told your risk man chair or president, right? Looks like you’re in the same exact boat as JoePa. Have you ever let your friend drive home after having a few drinks even though he didn’t seem really drunk? 10,000+ people die of drunk driving a year, and it’s now partially your fault for letting someone potentially add to those statistics. So let him who has not sinned cast the first stone.

    Specious reasoning…they’re just comparable. Direct knowledge of an occurrence and the risk of a possibility….

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    ice cold frat said:

    I don’t understand what kind of pedestal his detractors think they are on. Yes, he may have had some knowledge about what was going on. Yes, he should have done more. But he has become a scape goat for our own crimes of the same sort. You can not tell me with a straight face that you have never been privy to underage drinking; underage drinking that could have led to the sexual assault of a teen. You can argue that you never witnessed any sort of deviant behavior, and if you had, you would have told your risk man chair or president, right? Looks like you’re in the same exact boat as JoePa. Have you ever let your friend drive home after having a few drinks even though he didn’t seem really drunk? 10,000+ people die of drunk driving a year, and it’s now partially your fault for letting someone potentially add to those statistics. So let him who has not sinned cast the first stone.

    I definitely agree with you. I’m not saying what he did was exactly right, but it’s sad that even being associated with this taints his name. It’s a tough situation and there hasn’t even been a trial yet…I feel like we can’t judge unless we know the full story. Don’t kid yourself, if you were in his shoes would you have done anything different? Probably not, so get off your high horse and stop blaming him for what went down.

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    He did not make “a concious decision to allow kids to keep being raped”.

    He reported what he was told by McQueary and an investigation took place. Obviously, something shady went on within that investigation, however, how was Paterno supposed to know that? He left a serious situation in the hands of what was perceived as a very capable and respected administration at the time. The investigation that took place apparently found nothing (or so was told to Paterno). Was he supposed to assume that the administration of the University he’d spent 50 years at would lie in their investigation?

    Obviously, the Penn State students acted horribly in the days following his firing. The victims in this incident were the kids, not Joe Paterno, but it’s not like Joe was covering anything up or knowingly doing anything wrong by having Sandusky around the program following the incident that McQueary witnessed. To his knowledge, an investigation had taken place and nothing was found. What else was he supposed to do?

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