GDI Columnist Gets Offended At A Fraternity Party, Makes Shitty Attempt At Public Revenge On Fraternity

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I’m not so presumptuous as to question what makes a girl feel uncomfortable. That’s a personal issue, and I trust their judgment insomuch as if they are uncomfortable then that should be respected, regardless of if it’s rational or not, because that’s not the point.

That said, excuse me while I take exception to the column written by Betsey Horton, in which she describes an uncomfortable situation she encountered during a party at a University of South Dakota fraternity house. Now, I don’t doubt that Horton felt uncomfortable. If she did that is unfortunate. Whether or not the discomfort is justified, it is unfortunate.

Here is the uncomfortable situation, as she describes it:

The chant began as a toast between three guys, but it didn’t take long for every guy in the house to join in.

It seemed pretty harmless at first. It was just another one of those songs about the fraternal bonds of manhood. Yeah, you know the kind.

Suddenly the song took a dark turn. For the next two or three minutes of my life, I was subjected to lyrics instructing the so-called men in the room on how to force a girl into giving fellatio and get her “too drunk to say ‘No’.”

As you can imagine, this incredible song ended with the gentlemen in the room screaming out the name of their frat and proudly proclaiming its members were “on the hunt for (insert rhyming euphemism for female genitalia here).”

Okay, fine. That is a reasonable enough reason to feel uncomfortable. Like I said, it’s not my place to question what makes her or anyone else feel uncomfortable.

I will, however, question how honest she is being about the situation. Because while it is not anyone’s place to question the rationality of someone’s discomfort (unless it’s extremely irrational), it is definitely worth questioning their honesty.

Horton goes on to describe the conversation that unfolded between a group of girls, herself, and a fraternity guy at the party while the offensive fraternity chant was being sung. It quickly devolves from a seemingly realistic reaction into a pile of bitchy bullshit.

I looked around the room at the other young woman who had been relegated to couches and chairs.

The first sat quietly, the expression on her face growing angrier by the minute.

“This is disgusting,” the second said, rolling her eyes. “I can’t believe they’re saying this stuff in front of us.”

Totally believable. I can legitimately imagine this conversation. Moving on…

“Oh, I’m used to it,” said the third. “I play rugby so I hear this kind of stuff all the time.”

Again, sounds about right. There’s always that one “bro-ey bitch,” as our TSM staff puts it. God bless that girl.

“So immature,” said the first. “Guys are so stupid sometimes.”

Yeah we’re pretty stupid. No argument here. I’ll let Louis CK take over.

“What?” I asked sarcastically. “You mean you don’t like being told your place in this world is on your knees?”

Oh what a witty response you had Betsey. You’re so funny and charming!

Here’s where we start to get to the bullshit. This feels so…written. Maybe she said something similar, but this quote is clearly beefed up for the story, and it only gets worse.

“It’s just a power trip for them. Guys are so insecure.”

“Boys will be boys,” said the second. “I just try to ignore it.”

“Do you want to go?” my friend asked. “This party is lame.”

You go to the University of South Dakota. Every party is lame.

“Yeah,” I said. “I’m afraid if I stay here any longer I’ll get date raped. What do you want to do now? Wanna go out and hunt for some (censored)?”

COUNT ‘EM! Two more zingers from Betsey Horton!*

*Said zingers were added during the writing of this article and in no way reflect what was actually spoken during the events described.

I laughed and added loudly, “Stay classy, guys.”

Note that she wrote she was the only one who laughed at her fictitious joke. Even her subconscious knows she isn’t actually funny.

My guess is that as this incident unfolded a conversation similar to the one described took place, and these general themes were covered in that conversation. But Horton’s exaggeration for the sake of making herself seem cool, funny, and intellectually superior seriously begins to discredit everything else she wrote.

Just as I was about to stand up and put on my coat, a young man appeared.

“Excuse me,” he said. His tone of voice was very catty, like something out of the movie “Mean Girls”.

Or like something out of this column…

“What?”

“You need to leave,” he said. “We don’t want you here.”

“And why is that?” I said.

“You’re being really disrespectful to our traditions. If you want to sit here and trash our fraternity, you’re not welcome at our party.”

Just let her go bro! You don’t want Horton to drop the hammer! Oh shit! She’s droppin’ the hammer!

“Your traditions?” I said. “So raging misogyny is part of your tradition? Encouraging sexual assault is part of your tradition? Saying women are subservient to men is part of your tradition? Wow, it’s amazing there are even women here.”

I’m sorry, was she reading off of cue cards? I call SO much bullshit here. Again, this is so written. This isn’t a transcript, it’s a re-imagining.

The real conversation probably went something like this:

___

Fraternity Guy: You need to leave. We don’t want you here.

Horton: Why’s that?

Fraternity Guy: Because you’re disrespecting our traditions. You’re not welcome here if you’re gonna trash the fraternity.

Horton: So your guys’ traditions are to be sexist assholes and say women aren’t equal to men? Wow. You guys are lucky girls even come here.

___

See what happened there? The conversation is fundamentally the same. Horton is still concerned with what she perceived to be the fraternity’s offensive behavior and pissed off at the fraternity guy for confronting her because she was offended. The difference is that what I wrote is how actual people talk, what Horton wrote is a tailored, thought out response.

Could Horton just be that well spoken? Maybe, but I doubt it. Plus that is some quick thinking during what was probably a rapid exchange. Confrontation flusters even the best of us, and since she was at party it is probably safe to assume she had at least a few drinks, though that is not certain. Considering all of that I seriously doubt she ripped off the A+ rebuttal she claims she did.

The idea and execution of this column is starting to remind me of a Seinfeld episode.

I’m sure Horton wishes she said everything she claims she did, but I doubt it. Though if those words were going to come from anyone, it would have to be a person with a face as smug as hers.

Furthermore, the fact that she is exaggerating, or flat out inventing comments, makes me question pretty much everything else that happened, as she described it. Was the chant really that obscene? Or is Horton already not a fan of fraternities, a bit sensitive, and exaggerating the content and meaning of the chant to make her point all the more firm? She certainly has no problem changing her own words, why would she have a problem changing the words of others?

I admit though, it’s not like she has a motive for doing so.

“Umm, sorry I’m not sorry about being a member of a Greek organization. You’re not Greek are you? Yeah, I can tell. Sorry you’re mad you’re not one of us. Sorry we’re better than you.”

“Yes, that’s why I’m mad. That is exactly what this is about. You got it.”

I looked at the fool in front of me and smiled. “You’ve just made a very big mistake, my friend.”

“Umm, actually I really don’t think I have.”

“Oh, you’ll see.”

Oh, wait, there’s the motive, revenge.

And it turns out that the fraternity guy actually did not make a “very big mistake,” since the column never identified him or his house. He completely got away with whatever it is he and his brothers did, which, considering how much bullshit is in this article, could have been anything…or nothing.

Congratulations on your George Costanza moment, Betsey.

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  1. 5
    clarkanddakotameet

    The Volante capitalizes on every negative thing the greek community does. I see nothing about the philanthropy we do, the grades we get, or the positive community we instill. Its a good thing this article is on our Home Field instead of on the Volante. Get EXPOSED

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  2. 1
    nyllynn

    I was with MegsLittle, and there was no conversation between girls one, two, and three. It was her and her friend who made the comment about rugby. It was quite hilarious watching her get bitched/kicked out. Shes embarrassed herself in front of all Greek Life of USD and we love it.

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  3. 1
    Go Frat Win

    Betsey usually writes columns about issues like this so I’m more inclined to believe what she claims she said.

    However, Bacon, you are correct when you say that USD parties are pretty lame. However, Carey’s Bar did make it into Bro Bible’s Top 100 College Bars.

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  4. 1
    dudebro33

    Who the hell cares if every word of that conversation didn’t happen verbatim? We all know that every story published these days is just chock full of facts…NOT. Y’all missed the whole point of this article. Not surprising considering the majority of readers on this site, not to mention this site’s name. Anyway, the point was that it’s really fucked up that a frat tradition would center around singing an ol’ shanty about getting girls so drunk that said girls would actually suck these frat boys’ tiny dicks. That sounds a little like…oh, what’s the word I’m looking for…um, rape? “Hey, don’t insult our sweet frat traditions! Getting girls wasted and taking advantage of them has been a [insert frat name here] tradition since 1886!” Well, yippy skippy. Go get a personality. And while you’re at it, pick up some fucking respect too, assholes.

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      dudebro33

      I’m sure Betsey is complimented, “bigpenisdewd.” (Compensating for something, there, bro?) But I am not her. Believe it or not, strong-willed, self-respecting woman exist. Gasp! And you can save yourselves the typing energy. I already know you’re going to respond with shit like “You should strong-willingly suck my dick!” or “Maybe you should self-respect my cock, ho.” Congratulations on a fine insult.

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      bigpenisdewd

      wow betsy. I was just trying to offer you a good dickin’ (which you obviously need). and I’m not familiar with the term “self respecting woman”. Is that the type that gets mad when you unload your semen in their butt ?

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      brophecy foretold

      Betsey, your legs look pretty nice in your profile pic where youre dressed like a french chick ;)..you should just start dressing like that and guys will be nicer to you.

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    • 2
      guyphi

      I’m a woman at USD and I can fully realize that if I go to a fraternity party full of drunk (gasp!) fraternity men, that I will be subjected to this kind of talk. I still have self respect, but I have enough respect for them to let them sing what ever song they want. The sororities have disrespectful songs too, but no one bitches and whines about that. Any man in that fraternity would help me in a heart beat if I needed it. So I, too, am going to tell you to get off your high horse and stop making the rest of us women look like whiny bitches.

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    • 2
      Jon M Fratsman

      Yeah, I’ll take Paternalist and the points on this one. Miss Dudebro, I’m afraid you’ve come to the wrong place to defend your particular views on feminism. If you prefer to agree with your own kind (and I think you would, because you’re going to get reamed on here), allow me to point you in the direction of BuzzFeed, where there are hipster frauds and Greek-haters galore. There, I believe you can enjoy the sort of bongo-thumping, self-affirming liberal circle jerk that I believe you’re looking for.

      Also, don’t ever fucking say “y’all” again. You go to school in motherfucking South Dakota.

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    • 1
      ice cold frat

      ^^^ “… Getting girls wasted and taking advantage of them has been a [insert frat name here] tradition since 1886!”

      And yet they keep falling for it! Good work, gentlemen.

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      dudebro33

      Also, BroFuckYourself, you should take your own screen name’s advice. So because I call out some rapey misogyny, that means I was sexually abused? Because I myself don’t desire to be raped, that means I must have some close to home issues with forcible sex? Go read a book.

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      Douglas MacArthur

      I just read a study where women who give head regularly are 47% less likely to have a stroke. Trust me, I’m pre-med. Therefore, dudebro33, when I say suck my dick, I mean it with the best intentions. It’s for your health.

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      Rob Fox

      “Who the hell cares if every word of that conversation didn’t happen verbatim?”

      I think what you meant to say was, “Who the hell cares if she made some stuff up, she’s probably telling the truth about the other stuff, because she wouldn’t make that stuff up. We can totally trust her about that stuff.”

      Flawless logic.

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      SigmaFratty

      The word of the day is “misogyny.” $20 says you have no idea what it means. “WIllfull, self-respecting woman”? Sounds like you’re awful angry and butthurt about a little something. You should probably loosen up the granny panties, get laid, and stop thinking you’re better than everyone else. SPOILER ALERT: you’re not!

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      paternalist

      You’ve really picked the wrong place to try and espouse feminism, lady. Props to you for being strong-willed or whatever bullshit you want to spout, but pick your goddamn battles. You aren’t going to get anywhere arguing for this cow on this site.

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    • -1
      dudebro33

      SigmaFratty, don’t you worry about my sex life. This bitch loves sex. And what is with the negativity towards feminism? God forbid women be viewed as equal to men and our society teach men not to rape instead of teaching women how to avoid getting raped.

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        SigmaFratty

        Negativity towards feminism? Nope, didn’t say that. You Geeds sure are good at fabricating things! Teach men how to rape women? You don’t have a damn clue what you’re talking about. I’ll bet you’re the kind of person who believed The Onion article declaring Kim Jung Un the World’s Sexiest Man.

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      ice cold frat

      Weird… Could have sworn society had laws against rape. Betsey, how many people in this fraternity have been charged of sexual assault or rape? If the number is 0, how does your premise still stand? People rape because they’re sad, depraved people, not because society tells them it’s okay. You must honestly believe (or have been taught by society [keke] that) most men have a caveman’s status of intelligence, and it’s absurd.

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    • -1
      ice cold frat

      And yes, while I agree with you that there should be education on the grounds of sexual respect, I disagree that a large focus should not be placed on avoiding rape. If I wanted to rape you, I would, and no law (including the ones we have now) would stop me. For the same reason I don’t go to inner city St. Louis at 2 AM, you should also avoid certain situations where chances of danger are high.

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    • -2
      dudebro33

      Again I say to you, BroFuckYourself, READ A GODDAMN BOOK. Maybe then you’ll actually come up with an insult worth the seconds it took you to type.

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      broloveswomen

      I’m in a fraternity, and I say hats off to dudebro33 for her post. I love having fun, drinking beers and having sex as much as the next guy; but oftentimes those pastimes are done in a disrespectful or even hateful way. I’m not going to appeal to anyone’s sense of morality, or yell at you from my high horse, though. I will simply propose that reevaluating the way we as men talk about and treat women can improve our own lives.

      In the past few years, I and some of my closer friends and brothers have begun to realize how the ways we talk about women and about sex often ARE in fact misogynistic (which means hatred of women by men, to the commenter who recommended a dictionary). Just look at the ways sex is described in this article and in the comments: “cunt hunt,” “taking advantage of women,” “slamming box,” infers that sex is something that men take from or inflict on women, who are simply sex objects or animals. Reducing other humans to objects and animals is the same logic that allows rapists to feel OK about raping. Such thinking completely opposed to equality, freedom, and justice, the tenets of America. Even if you yourself don’t sexually assault or rape anyone, you’re keeping that logic and language alive for a rapist to justify his or her actions. It’s hard to believe that this kind of discourse does NOT contribute to the fact that nearly 1 in 5 American women are estimated to have been raped at some point in their lives. (2010 study by Center for Disease Control http://www.significancemagazine.org/details/webexclusive/1424839/Rape-more-common-than-smoking-in-the-US.html)

      Furthermore, we as men have a lot to gain from realizing this: our own humanity and happiness! Countless writers, scientists, and other wise men and women have said that empathy and understanding lead to greater satisfaction and fulfillment; living from one blacked out busted nut to the next doesn’t lead to happiness in the long run. Trust me, I’ve been there, as have many of my friends. I made the choice to reevaluate my assumptions, my prejudices, and my anger, and not because some “femenazi bitch” told me to. There are hundreds of thousands of men who have made the same choice, and they are happier for it. I challenge you all to do the same.

      And if you don’t want to do that, then at least try this: imagine how YOU would feel if your mom or sister expressed her opinions on a website, and in response, one of your buddies said he wanted to pee or cum on her butt, or forcibly shove his dick down her throat. Try empathy. It has a way of opening our eyes to the ways in which we (knowingly or unknowingly) support violence. Plus it’s good for the soul.

      Disagreement is welcomed! Although I urge you to say something beyond the 2nd grade exclusionary tactics of “go suck a dick” or “go back to your femenazi wife,” or “get laid” (I get laid plenty, and do the same for my girlfriend too). We’re all intelligent human beings–let’s use it!

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      dudebro33

      Oh, wow. Did you come up with that all by yourself? That’s so original. No one’s ever uttered that phrase as a means of ironic misogyny. Not even me.

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  5. 1
    guyphi

    Also, I wouldn’t say all USD parties suck. We live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. There’s nothing to do out here but look at cows, corn, and drink. We’ve been practicing partying since before most of you even knew what a fraternity was.

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