The BCS Title Game: A TFM Roundtable Discussion

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Our writing staff was asked, “Which team would you rather see win the national championship?” Here are some of the responses…

Roger Dorn

Would you rather ride arm-around-belly, two-deep on a Vespa with your buddy through the heart of campus on a Monday afternoon in the fall, or endure a brutal, three-minute titty twister at the hands of an ill-tempered Paul Bunyan? It’s the classic “lesser of two evils” debacle. There isn’t a good answer, but rather a less shitty one.

For me, the less shitty answer is Notre Dame. I don’t want to see Notre Dame win another natty per se, but I’d rather Brian Kelly hoist the crystal ball than the Nicktator. On one hand, Kelly is a red-faced asshole with a terrible sideline demeanor and a berate first, ask questions later philosophy. And let’s not forget he has a student death on his watch for which he has no response. On the other hand, Saban is just evil to his core. He practices unethical recruiting/scholarship practices, runs a North Korean-esque, drone-like program, and is generally just a red-assed sonofabitch. The guy looks fucking miserable at all times. I bet he’d trade topless photos of Mrs. Saban for a still shot of the offensive formation ND plans on rolling out there for the first drive of the game. In a battle of the lesser of two evils, Saban is Satan. Their names are even a single letter apart from each other.

However, these are the nation’s two most historically deep-pocketed football programs, and third place USC (possibly OU or even Michigan) is trailing by a furlong. I suppose it’s good for the game that these two NCAA football monsters will share the spotlight together on the biggest of collegiate athletic stages, but that doesn’t mean I have to like it. Because I don’t. Yeah, go ahead and say it: I’m butthurt about it. I am, admittedly. And not-so-coincidentally, the nation’s top two all-timers will be traveling with the two bandwaggonest of bandwagon fan bases in our great nation. Just two groups of entitled and insufferable blowhards.

I’m gonna act like a bitch leading up to, and during, the game. And screw Baylor for knocking off Old Man Snyder and the Wildcats. That silver fox deserved a ring.

Bama fans, if and when your team wins this game, please don’t claim 15 national championships or whatever your mythical number is up to by now. It makes you look ignorant.

Prediction: Alabama 24 – Notre Dame 20

Bacon

For me this game comes down to which team will be less annoying to see win, and holy shit is that a tough choice. Speaking of “holy shit,” I choose Notre Dame as the more annoying victor, and thus Alabama as the team I want to win. Bama is annoying too, there’s no doubt. In fact it pains me to root for them. One thing I will never adopt as a new SEC member is the shameless conference circle jerk that takes place every January so the teams in the SEC that sucked ass, which includes my alma mater this year, can feel good about themselves. Alabama winning the title doesn’t make Tennessee’s season any less of an abortion. Sorry Vols fans. In fact, one of the things I respect about the Alabama fan base is that they apparently don’t buy into the SEC family love. Win a national title and Bama will POISON YOUR FUCKING TREES.

But however obnoxious Alabama may be, Notre Dame has them beat. It’s the only thing Notre Dame is going to beat them at, actually. After a lifetime of living in a Midwestern city whose populous is predominately Catholic, and attending Catholic school from pre-K through high school, I am sick and fucking tired of hearing about Notre Dame. My grade school’s fight song was based on Notre Dame’s. My high school’s football team models their uniforms after Notre Dame. Why? Because Notre Dame is Catholic! And a good school! And a nice program! Not like all those other schools whose thug football players smoke marijuana! I’ll give Notre Dame students and alumni credit here and admit that these aren’t generally their beliefs, but rather the beliefs of the legion of Notre Dame supporters who root for the school because “fuck it, it’s Notre Dame, might as well root for someone.”

It’s easy for people to jump on the Notre Dame bandwagon because you don’t have to know anything about Notre Dame to do it. At least when you sell your soul to the Yankees you have to learn who Derek Jeter is. With Notre Dame you don’t have to know the players or the coach, you just have to smile at the shiny helmets and act pious because you’re rooting for the team from the “good school.” Never mind that their coach is a walking red skin sack inflated by rage. Also, don’t worry about the sketchy deaths surrounding the program, one having to do with gross coaching staff negligence, the other with player rape. Instead just tell me how “nice” it is to see a program like Notre Dame beating a semi-pro team whose players are only in school to get drafted.

At least Alabama fans know they’re assholes and relish in it. Notre Dame fans and “fans” are completely oblivious to how awful they are.

I will admit that I did not watch Notre Dame play a lot this year, but I did watch the USC game in its entirety. During that game the thing that stood out to me was how USC’s athleticism and raw talent kept them in the game and gave them a shot to win, right to the end. Lane Kiffin’s shitty coaching and a few understandable miscues by a redshirt freshman QB cost USC more than anything else. So now Notre Dame gets to a play a MORE athletic team coached by the Prince of Darkness best coach in the sport. Good luck with that one.

Prediction: Alabama 41 – Notre Dame 23

Blackball Bill

I’d like to see Alabama win this game, but my reasoning is weird. These are the two worst bandwagons in the history of sport. The world would be a better place if every single Notre Dame and Alabama fan disappeared from it. That being said, the Alabama bandwagon is already at its peak. Is another national championship really going to make things that much worse? The obese, chicken grease covered rednecks that call themselves Crimson Tide fans might do a little extra procreating in the Walmart parking lot after the win (using thick ranch dressing as lube), but all-in-all things will remain the same.

On the other hand, a Notre Dame win would cause an extreme rise in Fighting Irish pride that has been dwindling since before Rudy climbed the steps of Mount Doom with Frodo. I don’t want these obnoxious, anti-contraceptive, leprechaun lovers to have a reason to celebrate. I like watching them live their sad little lives in the past.

Prediction: Alabama 31 – Notre Dame 10

J Parks

Alabama is the rectal hair of America. Aside from the Greek System (you guys are cool), it’s the kind of place that harbors serial killing meth-heads. You either live there because you can’t afford a U-Haul, or because your trailer hasn’t gotten swept away to Oz yet.

You know your school is abysmal when beating Auburn in anything is considered a badge of pride. Crimson Tide fans, it’s because of comparisons to you that Mississippi State students are beginning to consider themselves smart. One could find a third grader’s report card, tint it crimson, stamp “special needs” on the top, and Voila! — you’ve got yourself an Alabama degree. A five dollar coupon for a rim job in the bathroom of Ponderosa Steakhouse holds more clout. At least that place has running water.

STOP WINNING FOOTBALL GAMES.

Fine, that’s what this is really about. I don’t hate Alabama. I don’t think all Alabama residents are rednecked, pear-shaped, inbred, cold-sored, toothless, meth-addicted, RAYCESS apparitions that are stuck in a past era and currently haunting the halls of America like a walking, waking, cautionary tale that’s sucking the intelligence dry out of everything it touches. I’m just jealous.

At first, I loved the SEC’s dominance. My family is from Dixie. A good amount of guys in my chapter have southern roots. It was awesome seeing SEC teams (especially Good Ole Rocky Top) take home the Natty.

But then one turned into two, two turned into three, and three is about to turn into seven. It’s getting ridiculous. It’s not only the conference’s dominance, but the egomania attached to it.

S-E-C! S-E-C! S-E-C!

It’s nauseating. I’ve never seen an entire region orally massage its rivals like this. It’s like national championships are literally the only thing keeping General Nick Saban from rallying the South into launching a second civil war.

Did you know that when the Tide plays Notre Dame on January 7th, the National Championship will have called the state of Alabama home for 1,095 DAYS? I feel like Selina Kyle. “SEC, you’re all going to wonder how you ever thought you could live so large, and leave so little for the rest of us.”

Notre Dame is one of my school’s biggest rivals. This should hurt to say. However, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Wake up the echoes. Go Irish.

Prediction: Alabama 42 – Notre Dame 16

Rage Theory

Sure, the Fighting Irish are undefeated, but that doesn’t mean shit when you don’t play anybody and your offense sucks balls. Alabama may have lost a game, but they’ve been forged in the furnace of the SEC, which is the greatest conference in the nation.

A lot of people bitch about there being an SEC bias in the BCS. Well, it’s true, so shut the hell up. The SEC is always favored because it’s top-tier. It undeniably shits on every other conference. The SEC should secede from the BCS and form its own championship system called TFTC.

None of that really matters, though, because the days of the BCS system are numbered, thank God. College football will soon emerge from the dark ages of the BCS into the light of a playoff system. Heisman be praised. Maybe then there will be a bowl game that is worth a damn.

As for the Crimson Tide and the Fighting Irish, both teams have a solid defense, which means it’s going to be a low scoring smashfest. Alabama is the better team, but the 9-point spread is a bit much. I think a lower spread is more accurate, because a lot of people underestimate Notre Dame.

Notre Dame will take the lead early. They know they’ve got to go for big offensive plays, and Everett Golson is a mobile QB who could get it done. However, I think the Saban defense will figure out their trickery and start forcing turnovers, which will allow the freight train Alabama offense to catch up and crush out a win. It all hinges on the Notre Dame offense. If they can’t put points up, Alabama will beat them harder than a red headed step-mule in Chris Brown’s basement.

If I had to make up an arbitrary final score based on absolutely nothing, I’d say Alabama over Notre Dame by six. If both offenses show up, the scores could be high, but it will still be closer than expected. I don’t think Notre Dame will win, but I do think they can fuck up the spread.

Prediction: Alabama 23 – Notre Dame 17

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Roger_Dorn

Roger Dorn (@RogerJDorn) is the Vice President of Media for Grandex, Inc. He's a native Texan with a full head of hair and knows his way around a nice box of red wine. Dorn graduated (BBA) with a GPA sitting in the meaty part of the bell curve, not lagging behind, but not trying to show off, either. Golf is his game now. He's long off the tee but can't putt for shit. Email: dillon@grandex.co

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    crazysig89

    Everyone complains that Notre Dame is always overrated. This reason is because they are the only team that is designed for the BCS system. Conferences are great during the season, but do not make much sense for the BCS bowl season. The BCS as to figure out which teams deserve to be in what bowl. For them to do this, they have to compare teams nationally. This is tough to do when a teams play their hardest games in their conference. Notre Dame played teams in five of the six top conferences this year ( will play the the sixth conference in the BSC championship.) This diverse scheduled, makes it easier for them to be compared nationally in the BCS then any other team in college football. This why ND is pretty much guaranteed a spot in a BCS bowl game if the have 10 plus win season.

    Bama fans, just be happy that Ohio State fucked up or we wouldn’t even be talking about you right now.

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    DFlo

    Fuck ND. I hate Alabama but there is no team on the face of God’s green Earth that I hate more than those self-righteous Irish fans

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    ksufraticus

    Nice to see some KSU respect from Dorn. Although that Baylor game was bull shit, and I got an MIP out of anger drinking after the game, I still think we could’ve been a good challenge for somebody in the championship. I would’ve loved to see Oregon vs. K-State in a title, not a third place game.

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    fratmydickbitch

    I don’t care what people say about Notre Dame making it to the ship is good for college football. Fuck that, and fuck Notre Dame. I wish nothing except that Everett fucking Golson gets a concussion. I don’t wish a career ending injury, just one that will make Tommy Ree’s come in and have to worry about all the Bama guys railing down his sister. Please Bama, I don’t cheer for you ever, but I will this one time.

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      Plan B is Plan A

      You are so fucking stupid it’s not even worth debating anymore. The SEC standings are purely based on conference record. It has nothing to do with rankings you idiot and A&M is 5th in their conference. There are nine AQ teams with better win-loss records. Again, nothing to do with rankings. You don’t even understand basic math, let alone football.

      Laps.

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      texas_bro

      I go to A&M, and yes there is. I think us, bama and LSU could all play evenly. I also think we could all beat Notre dame.
      So could georgia

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      Tits or GTFO

      If you go by BCS rankings to tell you who is better than who then you are an idiot. I agree for the most part with the LSU Bama A&M being evenly matched. Overall a pretty shitty college football year with no great teams. Florida is the worst #3 team ever.

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      Plan B is Plan A

      OK, how about this. According to the standings there are four teams better than A&M in the SEC alone. If you go by overall record among teams in AQ conferences there are nine teams better than A&M. So that’s three numerical measures (two objective, one subjective) that show why A&M isn’t even close to being the best team in the country. So why don’t you give your expert analysis as to why you think these are wrong, fuckstick?

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      Theyre Just Hookers

      Take another lap, Tits. You are a fucking moron if you seriously think A&M belongs in the conversation of who the best team in the country is. They had a great season but they are still 2nd tier.

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      Insatiable Bastard

      When did second tier become a team who, despite not having an opening game before entering conference play, almost beat the third ranked team in UF? How does this same team absolutely demolish most of its SEC competitors in its inaugural season in this conference? More to the point, goes on the road to this decade’s preeminent powerhouse and steal the win? I’d love to see A&M play anyone in the nation, including BAMA and LSU again. No question, the Heisman (should be awardee) Hopeful would take it to them and despite having to play with a lackluster defense, would still come out fucking every competitors’ slams at the end of the game. Notre Dame has absolutely no relevance with their status as an unaffiliated- Big 10 at best- conference team. I’m astounded to see Manti Te-o even spoken of for Hesiman. However, if ND does pull off the win, Rapture is sure to follow.

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      Tits or GTFO

      Somebody doesn’t know the difference in standings and rankings first of all, two completely different things. A&M lost 2 games by less than 10 combined points to 2 top 10 teams. They also beat Bama on the road, who is probably going to win another title this year. They have been annihilating all of their competition as of late as well. They are lower than those SEC teams due to 1 thing and 1 thing only preseason rankings. Like I said earlier, I don’t even like the team. But unlike you I actually watch football, and didn’t just google the top 25 and talk a bunch of nonsense.

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    floundersnu

    Fuck every single one for doubting Notre Dame. Who has been Alabama biggest victory against, LSU. I can’t wait for Jan 8th. By the way you guys were the same people who called the Rangers beating the Cards in four games in 2011. Yeah your sports calling is a piss poor effort.

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      FratBarkley

      Fuck Notre Dame…. If i played that game Id traumatize haze Notre Dame like Kiffin when he came in on me while i was peeing in his wives butt

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      BornOnTheBayou

      Who has Notre Dame’s biggest victory been against? Oklahoma? I think beating LSU, Miss St, Georgia, and Michigan is much greater than beating Mich St, Michigan, Stanford, and Oklahoma. Gotta look at both sides of the coin when you make a comparison, champ. though I’m not sure what mental illness led you to believe that beating the postseason #8 team, who only lost to two top-3 teams, is not a good “best win.” LSU, Florida, Georgia, and A&M could all go into that championship and win because they’re used to that level of play.

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      BornOnTheBayou

      You’re ignoring how each team gained its ranking. Georgia only lost to #10 SC and #2 Bama; LSU only #3 Florida and #2 Bama. Clearly we’re throwing out Michigan because it’s a common opponent. Oklahoma did well only losing to ND and K-state (assuming K-State really deserves that postseason #5, which is beyond doubtful), but Stanford lost to freaking Washington.

      Nitpicking details aside, you know that Bama had a tougher schedule than ND, that’s undebatable. Beyond that, Bama’s opponents, including the ones they beat and the one to whom they lost, had significantly tougher schedules than Notre Dame’s opponents did. That’s why there’s this SEC “circle jerk” every year. It’s ridiculous that some people just look at the W-L columns when SEC teams fight the top teams in the nation week after week and teams like Notre Dame somehow put together a perfect record after struggling week after week with no-name teams in Buttfuck, Midwest.

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      Bone Padre

      How do you know? The SEC schedules piss poor OOC opponents (FBS in November? Joke). You’re measuring their successes against other non-OOC tested SEC opposition. You’re assuming that the SEC teams are top dog, but so far, they have yet to play anyone OOC of substance.

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      BornOnTheBayou

      This year that’s a bit of an understandable argument, since the only good OOC games were really Florida-Florida State, Alabama-Michigan, and a couple people played Clemson. However, we can at least affirm that for five of the past six years an SEC team has beaten the non-SEC #1, and the schedules aren’t consistently cupcake outside of conference. I remember last year LSU started out with #3 Oregon, and top 25 Miss St and top 25 West Virginia. That said, since the conference is so strong, the SEC coaches have to schedule easier games when they can, since Big Ten teams just get them in-conference

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      inhocFaF

      For whoever said that Bama’s schedule is undeniable better, I guess looking at their top 3 or 4 opponents is all that matters in a 12 game season (really 7 if your bama). If you look at their records against opponents based on Sagarin rankings, and their margin against these teams, ND and even UGA look more impressive on paper than Bama. I don’t deny that Bama has beaten the cream of the crop, but Notre Dame’s bad wins come against bowl eligibles. While Pitt blows, they still aren’t a bottom feeder. You also have to consider that pretty much each and every week Notre Dame is playing a rivalry game. Look at USC, everyone says how much more talent they have, plus they have the incentive of ruining ND’s season, yet they lost at home. They were outplayed and should have lost by 20+ if ND had any red zone offense. The same can be said for the game against Pitt, where, if you look at the stats rather than just the score, you would have assumed ND rolled 40-0. Turnovers killed them that game when they have been solid with ball control all year.

      I’m not saying Notre Dame should be the favorite, they shouldn’t. But to say that they have no chance and are simply outmatched shows me that some people are just too bias. Plus having a 6 week off period where all Notre Dame will hear is that they have no shot gives them enough motivation to play their asses off. They also have 6 weeks to let Golston study game film. As a freshman, he’s going to have to grow up real quick. And if Bama wins, it’ll be something like 20-6, not 40-17 or anything high scoring.

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      Bone Padre

      “I think beating LSU, Miss St, Georgia, and Michigan is much greater than beating Mich St, Michigan, Stanford, and Oklahoma. Gotta look at both sides of the coin when you make a comparison, champ.”

      BCS Rankings

      Bama
      Georgia 7
      LSU 8
      Michigan 18
      Miss State Unranked (why the hell did you include them)

      Domers
      Stanford 6
      Oklahoma 11
      Michigan 18
      Mich State Unranked

      Much better?

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      Success

      Flouder, are you that retarded? Who’s played more ranked teams at the end of the season? And bama beat Georgia you idiot. The domers struggled against Pitt…..Pitt.

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