Veteran Pledge; the Pros, the Cons, the FaF

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Spring Rush will be here in just a few weeks, and I’d like to talk about a very special kind of rushee: the veteran. When it comes to rushing veterans there are pros and cons. I don’t actually suggest bidding every veteran that shows up. After six years of service I can tell you that there are plenty of fuck ups and geeds that can call themselves “veterans.” It’s still important to approach each veteran as an individual, even if many of them are distinguished individuals. Evaluate them just like you would anyone else. The only exceptions to that rule I would suggest are to take their age and any tattoos they may have with a grain of salt. Their age obviously deserves to be overlooked (usually, don’t rush a 30-year-old). After all, your typical vet forewent what would have been his first few years of college to instead take craps in a hole in the ground and spend his evenings dodging RPGs. Besides, think about the convenience of having a pledge that can buy alcohol, you never have to leave the house! Tattoos deserve special exemption because for some reason everyone I served with that was worth a fuck in a fire fight had at least one, and lot of times it’s just a unit thing (or an “I’m on leave and incredibly shitfaced” thing).

The Pros:

Probably the best thing about bidding a veteran is that he is not a pussy. Life in the military tends to suck, especially when you’re a private, and especially in the infantry. Given the choice of repeating pledgeship or spending another 12 months as a private I’d take pledgeship every time. At least when I was pledging the only person trying to kill me was the angry fat fifth year senior. There is also the aforementioned positive of the veteran pledge more than likely being 21, so again, you can have a pledge make all your beer runs. Another pro will be his perception of women. Spending an ungodly amount of time with only dudes and the unfortunate lowered expectations that come with being used to the trailer trash that sleaze around in the backwater towns most bases are located near can affect a man. Even the most mediocre sorostitutes will be outright smoke shows to many veterans. They can be outstanding wingmen.

The Cons:

While having a 21+ year old pledge is fun, don’t make a big deal about his age with other people. If anyone asks, he is “21”. Your social chair does not want to get the mid-homecoming week call from XXX sorority social chair “You sent a 26-year-old to creep on our babies? Are you fucking kidding me?” You can either try to get the older girls to set him up with one of their seniors, or just keep it under wraps. Personally I think any sorority girl should feel lucky to fellate a defender of freedom, but some girls just can’t get over an eight year age gap. It also might be a little awkward for his big brother, who could actually be several years younger. Lastly, many veterans have PTSD so you might have to be a little careful with some hazing activities to prevent your veteran pledge from going all John Rambo in the hazement.

The FaF:

How would you like a fraternity brother who has actually fought terrorists? He might be going back to Afghanistan at some point, how about pictures of the fraternity flag flying in Afghanistan declaring this land free of both terrorism and GDIs? Last, but certainly not least, many of these guys have had time as an NCO, and have administered their fair share of “corrective training.” If you cannot imagine the usefulness of such experience then you probably aren’t in a real fraternity.

A military veteran has the ability to make a fine addition to any fraternity, and they deserve a chance to rush/pledge. They sacrificed their time (specifically the time of their lives) to help defend the United States of America. These veterans are brave, selfless, and already know what it means to be both a brother and a leader. More often than not, adding a veteran to your fraternity will end up improving the quality of your house. Plus, like I said, they know how to haze balls.

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    FuckinGoats

    We had a 23 year old Iraq veteran pledge a few years ago… Turns out he had PTSD and was completely psycho and tried to take over the chapter and destroy it. Most veteran fraternity men I have encountered are great guys and fit in, but you never know. Those guys see things most people should never see over there.

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      iraqvet

      I am an Iraq vet that pledged. It is true that there are some vets out that make us look bad. The problem is that the Army lowered its standards to join. Fraternities shouldn’t make that mistake. All of the people I served with are my brothers in arms because of the bond that is created, but fraternities need to be weary. The military is like a sample of the national population. You got the awesome, FAF, pretty good, mediocre, and lower levels of shit. Just because someone is a veteran doesn’t mean they aren’t a brokedick or a shitbag, but they are better than any OWS liberal pussy any day of the week. Choose wisely.

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      Frataloosca

      I’m glad these guys understand what I’ve been saying to people on this site for forever now. I grew up in a family with 4 generations of US military but just because somebody serves doesn’t make them FaF, my brother is in Afghanistan now, biggest douche AND he’s a mail man but you would never know that if you bid him for being a Marine alone….think before you bid

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      PKPFratting

      There are a couple veterans in my Fraternity with me being one of them (Prior service in Army). There’s definitely shitbags that joined awhile ago because the Army was giving away $20 thousand dollar bonuses and waivers to get people to joined. But now the Army has increased their standards because of the increased supply of soldiers which now has MEPS cracking down hard on no gos. So the ones that are already in are always the ones that are under the microscope and give a bad image for the service as a whole. It’s bound to happen and even in Greek life there’s bound to be some chapters around the country that are not as fratty as your own.

      I believe you should respect every veteran for doing something that maybe around 99% of the U.S. couldn’t do and that is putting their life on the line to preserve the freedom of the USA and putting those GDI terrorists in their place. I especially respect the combat arms (artilleryman myself) and even the supply guys. Everyone does their share over there.

      With that being said, take every veteran with a grain of salt. Some guys I know are messed up for life with PTSD and everything and those guys may not be right for the Fraternity life.

      I agree with the article it pays to have military guys in your fraternity. Who else is going to know how the break down the pledges better than guys who went through boot camp themselves. I mean without that experience who else would know how to do lethal injections, supermans, and etc..?

      LEDN

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      jbalesi

      I agree with the iraqvet. I’m in the Navy now, post being in a southern fraternity in college, and I’d say about 70% or more of the people in the Navy that I know would never fit into the fraternity/sorority culture. They may be “bad ass” and all that, but a lot of them are shitbags or just lame people that just won’t ever understand the culture, and just want to join from what they see in movies.

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    CantFratThis

    Yes, if a veteran wants to pledge because he decided to take a few years to fight for our country, then of course seriously consider them. However, this case is extremely rare and this article seems to suggest that many fraternities come across these cases. Most people that enlist do so because college just isn’t for them. But I do know many guys, including a few in my fraternity, that go the ROTC route in college where they serve after they graduate college.

    Also something to note and something I learned living in a college/army town (manhattan/ft riley) is that it seems there is a difference between a ‘Veteran’ and a ‘G.I.’ A Veteran is someone who has seen action and tends to keep to themselves and general respect for college kids. A ‘G.I.’ is someone who has no respect at all for the college kids and starts fights at every given opportunity out of a type of jealousy.

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    SignificantCig

    This same thing can be applied to having ROTC cadets that rush/pledge. They know a lot about how to haze, are extremely disciplined and tend to be in better overall shape then most of the brotherhood. In addition, nothing gets a slam wetter then hearing the words, “Army Man”.

    IHSV

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      Frataholic

      No it cannot. ROTC? Are you kidding me? I respect anyone that can keep up with ROTC and being in a fraternity at the same time. That’s a challenge. But, they have no idea what they’re doing. Not even remotely. If I caught a cadet trying to play up his military affiliation to snag a slam, he’d get some corrective counseling. And, if you care that much about what kind of shape your brothers are in, you’re in a whole different kind of fraternity than me.

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